So you are saying that an ML sounds like a Sanders, which sounds like a Soundlab. A pretty gross oversimplification IMHO.
GG that was satire on the cable guys. You should be able to know by now who thinks what
So you are saying that an ML sounds like a Sanders, which sounds like a Soundlab. A pretty gross oversimplification IMHO.
But I think they will sound the like the Ethos and the MBL anyway. A stat is a stat, and an omni is an omni. Just sends music out in all directions.
Agreed Ken, that's my next and final speaker. Can pick up a MK1 model on the used market for $20K or so. For what they do and IMHO, I consider that a bargain among the "uber" priced speakers.
Gordon
We're on the same page, Adam. I'm currently having my room trenched for the installation of my newest cable acquisition:And because it's such a revealing speaker, make sure that anything you play on it has been downloaded through submarine cable only. It is instantly recognisable if the download has passed through satellites and this makes the audio unbearable.
GG that was satire on the cable guys. You should be able to know by now who thinks what
Having the benefit of CLX and 101Es within walking distance of each other a few years ago, I rated the MBLs 8.5 and the CLX 9 out of 10 on this forum in a show report. The 101 Xtreme however is a LOT better if you can get richer, Gordon I'd have them over the CLX but what a price difference.
Objectively, strictly a subjective assessment, you understand
TBH the 101E lost marks for its bass performance which I do not consider adequate for the money. The CLX is on dodgy grounds there too. Maybe 8 and 7.5 would be more realistic if a 10 rated speaker were to exist.
Having the benefit of CLX and 101Es within walking distance of each other a few years ago, I rated the MBLs 8.5 and the CLX 9 out of 10 on this forum in a show report. The 101 Xtreme however is a LOT better if you can get richer, Gordon I'd have them over the CLX but what a price difference.
Objectively, strictly a subjective assessment, you understand
TBH the 101E lost marks for its bass performance which I do not consider adequate for the money. The CLX is on dodgy grounds there too. Maybe 8 and 7.5 would be more realistic if a 10 rated speaker were to exist.
Perish the thought! You want me go where angels fear to tread?Do demo Roberto's Shun Mook Diamond Resonators while you are there, and please tell Ken they work
Gordon, my wife saw and heard the 101s at a Montreal show, and said she would happily live with them, but I find the too large for my visual taste. The CLXes, however, I would happily live with.Justin,
Thanks for the input. As you know, I have great regard for your insights. Regarding money, please remember that I will likely (absent winning the lottery) be buying a used pair of the MK 1 at about $20K or so. In my mind, this is the price one should use to judge performance and compare with other transducers on the market. From that perspective and from what I've heard, I'm pretty confident about my current plan. But as you know in audio, nothing is for certain. I may hear something in the next two years or so that makes all of this irrelevant.
Regarding the CLX, way too big for my visual tastes.
Best,
Gordon
Bernard, Zaidman, can you please go listen to the Muraudio, the Omnidirectional Stats in Ottawa and let us know what you think of them? I am interested in these. Since there is no dealer network here, factory direct might be much more reasonable here for the ultimate dream speaker. Absolute Sounds review said that it was the best reproduction of orchestra he heard. They crossover seamless at 450 Hz (which I understand is a dream crossover point many manufacturers try for but achieve only higher or lower, and is also the frequency at which they tune at the beginning of an orchestra). The reviewer also says that they sounded much better than the MBLs on which they were modelled. If you think it is good, I will fly down later in the year to have a listen.
BTW this thread has lost its way.
Justin,
Thanks for the input. As you know, I have great regard for your insights. Regarding money, please remember that I will likely (absent winning the lottery) be buying a used pair of the MK 1 at about $20K or so. In my mind, this is the price one should use to judge performance and compare with other transducers on the market. From that perspective and from what I've heard, I'm pretty confident about my current plan. But as you know in audio, nothing is for certain. I may hear something in the next two years or so that makes all of this irrelevant.
Regarding the CLX, way too big for my visual tastes.
Best,
Gordon
I thought you reserved the 10 for the one you spec'd?
BTW this thread has lost its way.
Bernard,
With the OP withdrawing, I think not. And frankly I'm glad to see that folks seem to be behaving in the "O" v "S" discussion.
Gordon
Gordon & Justin, I agree with both (opposite) statements. Some stuff is best left alone.We've all lost our way, Bernard. Mad hobby.
Go on - go for it. Explain why if I send data down a USB cable, that data might be different than if I had sent it down a ethernet cable or over a satellite link.
Do you worry that the USB cables that were used to update the navigational database on your next commercial flight might have suffered some "linear losses" and you're going to crash into the nearest mountain?
I think you're joking so I won't take any more of your bait.
hmmm... perhaps as part of that you can explain to all the satellite internet users why their USB cable outperforms their satellite during a snow storm.
Anyways if it helps I'll just say you win and we can all move on to more important topics.
In the absence of your ability to provide any explanation to the contrary, I think so. Finally!
Oh dear - we were never talking about performance during a snow storm. We were talking about data accuracy. We all know that performance is dictated by the clock in the DAC.
In the absence of your ability to provide any explanation to the contrary, I think so. Finally!
A happy ending afterall
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