where to put the turntable?

[zaphod]

okay. it's been a long haul but i think i have the room "this close" to laid out. I hate tearing out my own construction so i've really been aiming to nail down the layout of the basement before putting up walls (and figuring out how to put a closet into the new bedroom is proof i don't over think things - really it isn't).

Richteer got my to rethink having the equipment between the front speakers, so i have moved all the gear to a built in rack on the back wall which noses into my workshop. Man cave1 is giving up some space for man cave2. The rack will have it's own small ventilation system to exhaust air and perf metal doors for teeny tiny hands.

The room is intended to struggle with both 2 channel and theatre using a drop down screen. Room dimensions are close to Phi ratio 96 x 156 x 252. I plan to have curtains to pull around the room to adjust the sound for 2 channel vs DTS/dolby matrix.

Here is the layout for 2 channel. with a grouping of chairs in the back on the riser for reading or discussion and the sofa in the sweet spot.

Here is the layout for movies. The sofa slides back to the riser and the chairs form a row on the riser.

However - In all this i can't figure out where to put the darn turntable! The rack is fullish but putting it in there seems like a bad idea for the obvious reasons of putting a turntable in a closed rack. In the old house I had it sitting on the top of the Target rack, but that rack is gone.

A wall mount seems apropos, but where? back into the space between the speakers? I don't think so. The back wall is pretty full with surrounds and racks.

Anyone have an opinion?

 

[tsv_1]

okay. it's been a long haul but i think i have the room "this close" to laid out. I hate tearing out my own construction so i've really been aiming to nail down the layout of the basement before putting up walls (and figuring out how to put a closet into the new bedroom is proof i don't over think things - really it isn't).

Richteer got my to rethink having the equipment between the front speakers, so i have moved all the gear to a built in rack on the back wall which noses into my workshop. Man cave1 is giving up some space for man cave2. The rack will have it's own small ventilation system to exhaust air and perf metal doors for teeny tiny hands.

The room is intended to struggle with both 2 channel and theatre using a drop down screen. Room dimensions are close to Phi ratio 96 x 156 x 252. I plan to have curtains to pull around the room to adjust the sound for 2 channel vs DTS/dolby matrix.

Here is the layout for 2 channel. with a grouping of chairs in the back on the riser for reading or discussion and the sofa in the sweet spot.

Here is the layout for movies. The sofa slides back to the riser and the chairs form a row on the riser.

However - In all this i can't figure out where to put the darn turntable! The rack is fullish but putting it in there seems like a bad idea for the obvious reasons of putting a turntable in a closed rack. In the old house I had it sitting on the top of the Target rack, but that rack is gone.

A wall mount seems apropos, but where? back into the space between the speakers? I don't think so. The back wall is pretty full with surrounds and racks.

Anyone have an opinion?

Maybe to the left of the left side-surround on that back left side-wall? (I suppose stand mounted or wall mounted as you say) This placement may require sacrificing one of the five chairs... but then I guess it's a matter of priority. As an example, I have 7 chairs in my HT (more or less fixed) and we rarely have a full house... I could easily have done with less (though on the few occasions when we did have a lot of people over to watch HT, it was very nice). Perhaps that additional chair for you resides outside your HT room until really called for?

BTW, I think your layout and approach to quickly reconfigure for 2-ch or HT is very clever! Nice job

 

[Bernard]

I think you need a bigger room

 

[Speedskater]

I always try to put the turntable stand at a point where the floor is most rigid, like in a corner.

 

[zaphod]

I think you need a bigger room

and a bigger boat

 

[zaphod]

I always try to put the turntable stand at a point where the floor is most rigid, like in a corner.

I hear what you are saying, but i try to keep the TT out corners to frequencies, particularly bass, from feeding back into the pickup. Have you had troubles with that?

One thing i did not mention is that this is the basement and the floors will be engineered hardwood glued down to concrete. Stability is going to be pretty good until that fault line I live on lets go.

 

[zaphod]

Maybe to the left of the left side-surround on that back left side-wall? (I suppose stand mounted or wall mounted as you say) This placement may require sacrificing one of the five chairs... but then I guess it's a matter of priority. As an example, I have 7 chairs in my HT (more or less fixed) and we rarely have a full house... I could easily have done with less (though on the few occasions when we did have a lot of people over to watch HT, it was very nice). Perhaps that additional chair for you resides outside your HT room until really called for?

I think that you are right, the extra chair is also in front of a door. I should point out that at the top left of the image (the left side of the riser as you face the screen) is an exterior door. No turntable there. The red line to the left of the screen is a window.

On the other side of the room (the bottom of the image) you might make out two thicker lines on the room boundary - those represent open spaces in the framing, one of which will be the door into the room. In the image I have chosen the corner one as the door but I could change that to have the door in the middle of the room and put the TT behind the right suround (as you face the screen). Now I really lose a seating position.

BTW, I think your layout and approach to quickly reconfigure for 2-ch or HT is very clever! Nice job

Thanks man - i've probably read thousands of posts/articles on how 2CH and HT cannot coexist, but i'm giving it a try. Again. The last attempt never really did it for me.

 

[Bernard]

Whatever you do, the TT has to be in close proximity to the rack as the worst thing you can do is run long phono cables, unless of course you have a dedicated phono preamp sitting under or next to it. You also need a volume control/mute switch right next to the turntable (if remote) as you don't want the stylus to hit the LP with the volume turned up.

 

[zaphod]

good points. I have a dedicated head amp (meitner) that will push line level for 50 or more.

I usually have mute on the pre when I drop the needle (little Canadian reference there).

 

[tsv_1]

good points. I have a dedicated head amp (meitner) that will push line level for 50 or more.

I usually have mute on the pre when I drop the needle (little Canadian reference there).

I thought that was a porn reference until I clicked the link. Nice beats, but I still say this is the best old-school rap tune ever.

 

[zaphod]

you got it - add a little RunDMC and i'm in old school happy place.

 

[Bernard]

I thought that was a porn reference until I clicked the link. Nice beats, but I still say this is the best old-school rap tune ever.

Todd you are truly ambidextrous; no, thats not the word for which I'm looking. What I mean to say is how do you go from limp noodle baroque to high energy hip-hop? BTW I would take baroque over the other alternate entertainment any day.

 

[tsv_1]

Todd you are truly ambidextrous; no, thats not the word for which I'm looking. What I mean to say is how do you go from limp noodle baroque to high energy hip-hop? BTW I would take baroque over the other alternate entertainment any day.

Variety is the capsaicin of life my friend.

 

[Bernard]

Variety is the capsaicin of life my friend.

That's one thing that does not agree with my digestive system - capsaicin. But, spice is not synonymous with capsaicin, unless you are in NOLA, where their mild is my unbearable.

 

[tsv_1]

That's one thing that does not agree with my digestive system - capsaicin. But, spice is not synonymous with capsaicin, unless you are in NOLA, where their mild is my unbearable.

Someday I'll tell you about the time I was making a pot of chili... and how I cut up a few scotch bonnet peppers and threw them in the pot. Then how I put it on the stove to simmer. Then how I went to the little boys room to do #1. And did I mention that I wasn't wearing gloves when I cut up that scotch bonnet? And then how I spent the next 45 minutes in the shower with cold water directed "right there" because it was either that or walk in front of freight train to end the suffering.

 

[zaphod]

been there. and that was in a rental with no shower only a tub. now imagine rinsing off the boys under running water in the tub. yep, on your knees up close and personal. i'm sure it looked like i was making friends with the faucet.

dignity? what dignity - i was in pain.

 

[tsv_1]

been there. and that was in a rental with no shower only a tub. now imagine rinsing off the boys under running water in the tub. yep, on your knees up close and personal. i'm sure it looked like i was making friends with the faucet.

dignity? what dignity - i was in pain.

disturbing imagery aside, we appear to both be members of the hot-member club. (and I would advise against googling hot-member)

 

[MiTT]

Someday I'll tell you about the time I was making a pot of chili... and how I cut up a few scotch bonnet peppers and threw them in the pot. Then how I put it on the stove to simmer. Then how I went to the little boys room to do #1. And did I mention that I wasn't wearing gloves when I cut up that scotch bonnet? And then how I spent the next 45 minutes in the shower with cold water directed "right there" because it was either that or walk in front of freight train to end the suffering.

I have a similar story involving a pot of my special green chili, some fresh jalapeños, and an ex-girlfriend. Once I'd gotten the chili on the stove we had some time to kill, so I poured us each some tequila, put some music on the stereo and we settled in to get "cozy". She was a hot blooded Equadorian girl, but the activity that afternoon brought a new dimension to the term. She ended up in the bath for a while and I had to promise to keep my hands off of her for the evening. We worked it out.

 

[Bernard]

Amazing that the hands did not feel the heat, but transferred it to the old dip stick........or other parts.

In a restaurant in San Antonio, a waitress describing a dish I was considering, casually mentioned that it was finished with a touch of Scotch Bonnet peppers, at which point I backed out of ordering it. I was going to say that it's amazing what self-abuse takes place in some parts of the country, but they do it in genteel Maine too!

 

[zaphod]

well they don't call them tender bits for nothing!