Well. Everybody can choose to see what they want.
Indeed.
First there was an implication that votes were altered by Russian hackers. Then everyone agreed that was inaccurate or they were statements that could have mis-lead people.
I don't think anyone with any sense bought into that and it was dismissed pretty quickly.
Next, it was the Russians that hacked into hillary's server or the DNC's or what have you. Wiki-leaks claims that was absolutely not the source of the info. Not good enough. Everybody agrees the info was accurate though.
Assange didn't say the Russians weren't involved in the hacking. He said they didn't provide the information to him. Important distinction, as it's an easy way to mislead your audience. Assange has also been known to lie or mislead when it suits his purposes. Personally, I will believe the intelligence services of the United States over Julian Assange, but you go on believing whatever fairytale you want.
There was this implication of a bro-mance between Putin and Trump. Well if they were so tight - things don't seem that way now given our bombings in Syria etc... The fact that Trump had dialogue with one of the top 3 super powers of the world when the Dems could not maintain what most would consider an important relationship... I guess that is criminal.
Trump has been complimentary and deferential of Putin from the get-go, which is a behavior that would have been deemed near criminal in previous republican administrations. But apparently conservative policy positions change as the wind blows. Syria was an intentional distraction. Putin didn't care about that, and was given forewarning. The recent hosting of Russian officials in the White House shows the bromance is still strong. Think about that for a minute. Our intelligence services have said Russia definitely interfered in our elections (practically an act of war) and Trump invites them to visit the White House! That you can look at that on its face and pretend it's not a problem is baffling to me. This is what I meant by Wilfull Ignorance.
Now - we have 'the Russians funded Trump'. What a laugh. Did you see the magnitude of spending on the two campaigns? The Dems bank roll was huge...and the Reps were outspent by a very large amount. And there was no huge barrage of trump ads. In fact - all of us were betting on when it would get called for Hillary.
It's a lot more than just funding, but you will have to wait for more information to come out to understand the extent. Not that you'll believe it. I'm sure Nixon had plenty of die-hard supporters that refused to buy into the whole watergate conspiracy thing, as well.
Dems were howling about Comey during the election and post. Now he gets fired. And I would think most would say 'it's about time given the fact they wanted his head on a platter several months back. But now it is painted as an aggregious firing because Comey was getting too close.
If he had fired Comey right off the bat, I agree that the dems would have been happy. But to wait, and then fire both Preet Brahara and Comey right as their investigations are heating up (literally days after Comey asked for more funds for the Russia investigation)... That's a different story for obvious reasons. And in fact, Trump pretty much admitted that the Russia investigation was the primary reason he fired him, which, actually, is a crime! (It's called obstruction of justice). How willfully ignorant do you have to be to ignore that? I mean, really?
This....is a fishing expedition. And you don't have to be a Dem or a Rep to come to a similar conclusion. I have no answers nor do I have any proof as do any of us. However, leaping to conclusions on that basis .... seeing attempts at clouding the general publics view ....I just don't roll that way.
This is absolutely not a fishing expedition. There is already more relevant known information that is sufficient to warrant an independent investigation than in any case since watergate. I don't know how any intelligent person of any political persuasion can't see that. I mean, you would think the fact that there are already several republican Senators calling for one should at least give you a clue. Seriously.