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I have a long run of speaker wire to run for my fronts and center and i have some 12 gauge pre-made ones but i will have allot left over should i cut it off or just curl it up behind the speakers? i am using bryston 2 channel and 5 channel amps. thanks
 
Why the Ultra long run? If its surround speakers its OK to run longer runs but front 2 channel I would move my amp much closer. Longer IC if they are balanced is the way I would go! I would not run RCA anything longer than 3 meter for amp. You might think of rearranging your set up. ;)
 
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CAP & twich54: I have the equipment in the back of the room that is way the long runs. my setup is for audio and video in my living room. i wish i could change the layout but i would end up with long interconnects and my equip would be in between the speakers with all it's lights of glory shinning. thanks for the reply
 
i would end up with long interconnects and my equip would be in between the speakers with all it's lights of glory shinning. thanks for the reply

A much better proposition that what you are proposing, at least audibly speaking I suspect. Besides if you are able to put your gear between your main L/R speakers in a manner that does not mess with imaging, etc. you will then have minimized both I/C and Speaker cabling !

30' plus for speaker cabling is nuts, again, IMO.
 
30' seems like a whole lotta speaker wire to me. Of course, it sounds like a an excessive amount of IC also. I would urge you to reconsider your equipment layout despite the lights/user interfaces/presence of heavy audio gear at the front of the room.

One of the things we audio-junkies have to contend with is the dreaded SAF, also known as the "Spouse Acceptance Factor". There is often no way to get around bulky equipment and wires lying visibly on the floor if one hopes to achieve the highest possible sound quality from their gear. But getting high sound quality from you current gear sure beats going out and pi$$ing away another 5 large on more refined equipment just to obtain the SQ that you already can by simply compromising on the SAF.

My listening room is my living room, and its somewhat unconventional looking due to the compromises made in the pursuit of SQ. It is still a cozy place for family gathering and watching the occasional DVD with the family, but the space between the listening chair and the Logans is an exclusion area -- no furniture, coffee tables, toys, junk, goofing off, horseplay, grab-a$$ing or food allowed. The wife ain't big on that aspect, but she puts up with me and my idiosyncrasies...

But back the the wire issues, specifically..... My ICs are also custom lengths and long by most standards -- 16' RCA type, but they are solid core and double shielded. Having the power amps directly behind each speaker and utilizing two runs of 5' speaker cable works for me. It should be noted that long IC/short SW sounds slightly different than short IC/long SW. I went the route that i thought sounded best. I recommend that you experiment with both methods and decide for yourself, but ultimately... less wire to screw up your sound is a better thing.

Sorry for the long response ;)

~VDR
 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.... I can be long-winded. But it's the least of my bad habits !! :D

~VDR
 
speaker lenght

thanks everyone on your suggestions but moving the equipment up front would mean i would have to run a 30' HDMI cable to my projector and i understand this is a no no. my roon is rather narrow 11.4' x 23', so that rules out the side equipment install and beside my screen is 106" grayhawk and SL3's which takes up almost all of the wall. thanks again for all your suggestions.
 
thanks everyone on your suggestions but moving the equipment up front would mean i would have to run a 30' HDMI cable to my projector and i understand this is a no no. my roon is rather narrow 11.4' x 23', so that rules out the side equipment install and beside my screen is 106" grayhawk and SL3's which takes up almost all of the wall. thanks again for all your suggestions.

Hi,

The problem with running long HDMI cables is the HDMI signal is very low voltage and a balanced signal. It is not recommended that you run an HDMI cable longer then 15', if you do you can run into sparkles or a drop out of the HDMI signal.

It is possible to run an HDMI cable 30', even up to 300' if you need to. There are a number of high end HDMI cables out there that use large AWG conductors and silver plaiting to minimize resistance so the signal can go over 15'. The best option if you need to run a long HDMI cable is to do what I did and get a fiber optic HDMI cable, It only set me back $300 for a 33ft cable and is about the best option for running a long HDMI cable without signal loss. You can get them for installs up to 330ft.
 
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thanks everyone on your suggestions but moving the equipment up front would mean i would have to run a 30' HDMI cable to my projector and i understand this is a no no. my roon is rather narrow 11.4' x 23', so that rules out the side equipment install and beside my screen is 106" grayhawk and SL3's which takes up almost all of the wall. thanks again for all your suggestions.


http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=459782

Pricey, and not available just yet, but it's another option. Has the added benefit of no cords running across your room.
 
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=459782

Pricey, and not available just yet, but it's another option. Has the added benefit of no cords running across your room.

The only problem with wireless extenders is it's not a question if they will degrade quality but by how much? In this case the extender may do less damage to the signal then a copper cable. But compared to a fiber optic HDMI cable the electrical single is converted to light, sent to a receiver on the other end and converted back to an electrical signal and feed to the display or projector. There shoud be very little if any distortion to the signal.

Another option is an HDMI to cat5/6 system that converts the HDMI signal and runs it over cat5/6 cable to another box at the other end that converts it back to HDMI to the display/projector. Only thing I dislike about this system is your using copper cable again and you have to worry about resistance.
 
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