Bernard
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I'm trying to decipher the text in bold.
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peacefulcargo
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I suppose there are mechanics one can go through in observing something with their senses (see and hear in this case) and one can 'agree' the speaker sounds right and use that as one's 'reasoning' for going ahead with buying something but there is something more (in my view) that in a moment just 'indicates' in one's universe as right and in that scenario there's no via (heart or mind) its' direct and if you will almost 'spiritual' in nature.
slowGEEZR
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Sorry I'm late to this show guys. I've been going to a lot of live music, lately and haven't spent a lot of time on the computer!
I agree with Rich. The sound of those setups was pretty bad, to my ears and chased me out of the room pretty quickly. Interestingly, at last year's show, the YG speakers I heard had much improved sound!
Gordon Gray
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Thanks Steve.
I leave with this. If you have the same speaker in four rooms and three sound from bad to marginal and one sounds very good to great, what are the other obvious variables?
Heard the exact same anomaly with the Wilson Sashas, which were used at the same show in several rooms.
My take. Show sound is only one indicator of quality (for better or worse) and not a very good / predictable one at that.
Gordon
PS: Also had a friend who accompanied me (well seasoned audio type) who had a very similar reaction to the Kipod and Sasha sound quality variations in different rooms.
I leave with this. If you have the same speaker in four rooms and three sound from bad to marginal and one sounds very good to great, what are the other obvious variables?
Heard the exact same anomaly with the Wilson Sashas, which were used at the same show in several rooms.
My take. Show sound is only one indicator of quality (for better or worse) and not a very good / predictable one at that.
Gordon
PS: Also had a friend who accompanied me (well seasoned audio type) who had a very similar reaction to the Kipod and Sasha sound quality variations in different rooms.
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User211
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I totally agree, Gordon.
The Bristol show this year the Analysis Omegas sounded pretty dire. I put it down to too many tubes in the chain of partnering equipment and a choice of music I wasn't keen on.
If you recall I didn't much like the YGs at Munich. I'll probably go out again this year. Wonder what my take will be on the YGs this time
The Bristol show this year the Analysis Omegas sounded pretty dire. I put it down to too many tubes in the chain of partnering equipment and a choice of music I wasn't keen on.
If you recall I didn't much like the YGs at Munich. I'll probably go out again this year. Wonder what my take will be on the YGs this time
MiTT
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I chalk it up to the notion of continuous improvement. A few years ago I didn't have much regard for either Wilson or YG Acoustics products. Then the past 2 years I've found them both very engaging at RMAF. The Wilson Sasha's were the first of their speakers to pull me in (particularly with Doshi electronics the past 2 years). I agree though, the YG Acoustics are VERY system dependent. In one room they sounded amazing and yet in a few others; Meh?!? Goes to show you how important the partnering equipment synergies are. Similarly, I've always been a big fan of Avalon's speakers, but last year at RMAF I was utterly disappointed. I can't even remember what they were running them with, but it left me quite disappointed.
Great discussion, guys. All of this goes back to what we all know about this hobby. Associated equipment, system synergy, the room acoustics, and the material played all have a huge impact on the sound of a pair of speakers. Just blows my mind when I hear a setup that costs tens of thousands of dollars sounding like crap in a show or a dealer showroom. But it happens quite often. Then sometimes you hear a setup that doesn't cost that much and it sounds magical.
On another note . . . My fam is out of town to the beach this week and I stayed home. So today I did something I haven't done in quite a while. I spent hours in my media room just listening to great music. I am happy to report that the system sounds excellent! Logans used to have a reputation that they were great for acoustic and vocals, but just couldn't do well with rock and roll. After listening to The Eagles' "Life in the Fast Lane" and "Victim of Love" off of the Hotel California cd, I can safely say that myth has been put to bed. Summits can rock with the best of them!
On another note . . . My fam is out of town to the beach this week and I stayed home. So today I did something I haven't done in quite a while. I spent hours in my media room just listening to great music. I am happy to report that the system sounds excellent! Logans used to have a reputation that they were great for acoustic and vocals, but just couldn't do well with rock and roll. After listening to The Eagles' "Life in the Fast Lane" and "Victim of Love" off of the Hotel California cd, I can safely say that myth has been put to bed. Summits can rock with the best of them!
slowGEEZR
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Agreed, setup, room acoustics, psychological predisposition, etc. all have an impact on what you hear. After hearing so many different systems in various homes, shows, etc. I've come to the conclusion that the room is of utmost importance.
cool, good to hear you're getting some solo listening in with no constraints on volume and duration. Enjoy !
Now, I'm sure you also used this available time to carefully photograph your system so you update your listing here, right?
Now, I'm sure you also used this available time to carefully photograph your system so you update your listing here, right?
Yep, I'm working on that too. But Joey has first dibs on the photos.
Joey_V
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Success... :music:
ktchnman
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One of my gripes with displays is their lack of having been properly broken in. I think that is especially true in a "show" situation, like when a manufacturer wants to show off a new item, for example, components have nowhere near the amount of time on them that they truly need to sound their best. I'm using a s/s amp right now in my system, a Cary 200.2, which was sold to me as the demo from last years Rocky Mountain show, and it needed a whole lot of hours in my system before it sounded like it does now (PS: I'm happy with it ...for the moment, anyway) and the rest of my system, Pre amp, Tuner, and CD Player, are all Tube. Likewise, from another source, I purchased some interconnects that were also demos from there and they too needed additional hours on them to sound their best.
slowGEEZR
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Joey, 100% of 0 is still 0.:ROFL:
