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[Jeroen Miersemann]

Good day everybody,
I am new to this forum for the reason that I am in the race for new loudspekers and I am very interested in the Martin Logan ElectroMotion ESL.

 

[Reverb]

Welcome to the forum.

 

[MyCu]

Good day everybody,
I am new to this forum for the reason that I am in the race for new loudspekers and I am very interested in the Martin Logan ElectroMotion ESL.

Welcome. There is a lot of information on this forum for you to digest. Let us know what you decide to go with!

 

[Kermie]

Welcome!! Have fun with the search. Lots of great information here

 

[twich54]

Welcome, I'm one of the old farts around here .........

 

[Steelhead]

I am a long time ML owner and would like to welcome you hare.

Hope you score the ESL's and are as happy as I am in owning ML's.

Best to you and yours

 

[VideoVic]

Good day everybody,
I am new to this forum for the reason that I am in the race for new loudspekers and I am very interested in the Martin Logan ElectroMotion ESL.

Hello Jeroen and welcome to the world of Martin Logan Owners. I have owned Martin Logan Electrostatic speakers for 25+ years; first a pair of Aerius i and, since 2019 a pair of ESL-X. I love them and I hope you will like yours when you finally own a pair. There is much to learn about owning these fine speakers, and everyone who is a member here is willing to help you achieve the best possible experience from your new speakers so don't be afraid to ask any question you may have about setting them up or what type of components work best.
Happy Listening!

 

[Jeroen Miersemann]

Hello Jeroen and welcome to the world of Martin Logan Owners. I have owned Martin Logan Electrostatic speakers for 25+ years; first a pair of Aerius i and, since 2019 a pair of ESL-X. I love them and I hope you will like yours when you finally own a pair. There is much to learn about owning these fine speakers, and everyone who is a member here is willing to help you achieve the best possible experience from your new speakers so don't be afraid to ask any question you may have about setting them up or what type of components work best.
Happy Listening!

Thanks.
I wonder if my Advance Paris A10 amplifier can handel the high frequencies when paired with the ML ESL' s.
I have heard that at high frequencies the resistance of the ESL is low, can go even lower as 2 Ohm, which means they wil need more current.
The Advance Paris A10 can handle a 2 Ohm load but I wonder if that would be enough for the ML Electromotion ESL speakers

 

[twich54]

Jeroen, I'm not familiar with your amp, what are its specifications ? Regardless, electrostatic speakers, while their impedance dip is inverse that of traditional box speakers(normally) they are less of a current demand and more of a voltage demand. Thus capacitance (what your speaker has become) can be an issue (probably not likely)with your amp(oscillation).

 

[VideoVic]

Twitch54 is correct. One other way of determining how well (not "if") your amp will perform with the ESL speakers is to look at the specs again to see if the amp's rated output doubles each time the resistance is halved; i.e; if the amp is rated at 100 watts into 8 ohms, does it "double" to 200 watts into 4 ohms, and more important does it again double to 400 watts into 2 ohms. If so, it will probably "handle" the ESL speakers well.

THAT being said, I'd say go ahead and try your amp and see how well you like it after giving your speakers and cables a good amount of time to "break in" (a month or so should do it depending on how often you listen), The ESL speakers won't knock your socks off for the first 100 hours or so, but if you take the time to listen to them while they are breaking in you will perceive remarkable, audible improvements as time goes by, especially once the woofer loosens up.

When I first purchased my ESL-X I also purchased a Rotel RB-1582MKII amp as I was ignorant at that time of the impedance challenges (which I subsequently learned about years later from members of this website) and, even though that amp isn't known for being rated to drive 2 ohms or less it served my wonderfully for 5 years and sounded great to my ears for its cost.

I just purchased a SANDERS MAGTECH amplified which specifically designed for ESL and planar speakers and I am exceedingly pleased with it. If you'd like to learn more about amps and electrostatic speakers, visit the SANDERSOUND.COM website and read their technical papers.

 

[Jeroen Miersemann]

Jeroen, I'm not familiar with your amp, what are its specifications ? Regardless, electrostatic speakers, while their impedance dip is inverse that of traditional box speakers(normally) they are less of a current demand and more of a voltage demand. Thus capacitance (what your speaker has become) can be an issue (probably not likely)with your amp(oscillation).

Thanks for the explanation .

 

[Jeroen Miersemann]

Twitch54 is correct. One other way of determining how well (not "if") your amp will perform with the ESL speakers is to look at the specs again to see if the amp's rated output doubles each time the resistance is halved; i.e; if the amp is rated at 100 watts into 8 ohms, does it "double" to 200 watts into 4 ohms, and more important does it again double to 400 watts into 2 ohms. If so, it will probably "handle" the ESL speakers well.

THAT being said, I'd say go ahead and try your amp and see how well you like it after giving your speakers and cables a good amount of time to "break in" (a month or so should do it depending on how often you listen), The ESL speakers won't knock your socks off for the first 100 hours or so, but if you take the time to listen to them while they are breaking in you will perceive remarkable, audible improvements as time goes by, especially once the woofer loosens up.

When I first purchased my ESL-X I also purchased a Rotel RB-1582MKII amp as I was ignorant at that time of the impedance challenges (which I subsequently learned about years later from members of this website) and, even though that amp isn't known for being rated to drive 2 ohms or less it served my wonderfully for 5 years and sounded great to my ears for its cost.

I just purchased a SANDERS MAGTECH amplified which specifically designed for ESL and planar speakers and I am exceedingly pleased with it. If you'd like to learn more about amps and electrostatic speakers, visit the SANDERSOUND.COM website and read their technical papers.

Thank you for your excellent explanation .

 

[Jeroen Miersemann]

Jeroen, I'm not familiar with your amp, what are its specifications ? Regardless, electrostatic speakers, while their impedance dip is inverse that of traditional box speakers(normally) they are less of a current demand and more of a voltage demand. Thus capacitance (what your speaker has become) can be an issue (probably not likely)with your amp(oscillation).

The specifications of the Advance Paris A10 are,

Power output 8 Ohm: 130 W
Power output 4 Ohm: 190 W
Power output 2,66 Ohm: 250 W
In class AB.
Frequency response: 30 Hz-80 KHz.
Output impedance: 10 K Ohm.

 

[Jeroen Miersemann]

Twitch54 is correct. One other way of determining how well (not "if") your amp will perform with the ESL speakers is to look at the specs again to see if the amp's rated output doubles each time the resistance is halved; i.e; if the amp is rated at 100 watts into 8 ohms, does it "double" to 200 watts into 4 ohms, and more important does it again double to 400 watts into 2 ohms. If so, it will probably "handle" the ESL speakers well.

THAT being said, I'd say go ahead and try your amp and see how well you like it after giving your speakers and cables a good amount of time to "break in" (a month or so should do it depending on how often you listen), The ESL speakers won't knock your socks off for the first 100 hours or so, but if you take the time to listen to them while they are breaking in you will perceive remarkable, audible improvements as time goes by, especially once the woofer loosens up.

When I first purchased my ESL-X I also purchased a Rotel RB-1582MKII amp as I was ignorant at that time of the impedance challenges (which I subsequently learned about years later from members of this website) and, even though that amp isn't known for being rated to drive 2 ohms or less it served my wonderfully for 5 years and sounded great to my ears for its cost.

I just purchased a SANDERS MAGTECH amplified which specifically designed for ESL and planar speakers and I am exceedingly pleased with it. If you'd like to learn more about amps and electrostatic speakers, visit the SANDERSOUND.COM website and read their technical papers.

Thanks for the information.