Motion and Encore

[Peter_Klim]

How are these new Motion speakers?

The Encore TF can be had at the discounted price of $200 each (MSRP $500 ea.). They use the Advanced Thin Film technology (ATF) that ML no longer uses in their current line.

The Motion 2 MSRP (same as street price) is $200 each.

If each system is used with a subwoofer, which would be the better sounding system?

How are they compared to systems of comparable price (NHT, PSB)? I'm leaning a bit on the HSU HB-1 MK2 that go for $150 each

 

[twich54]

How are these new Motion speakers?

Tim (MiTT) and I had a chance to audition earlier this year.............



http://www.martinloganowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10440

there is another thread if you care to search.......

 

[Peter_Klim]

Tim (MiTT) and I had a chance to audition earlier this year.............



http://www.martinloganowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10440

there is another thread if you care to search.......

Thanks for the thread.

Although after 4 pages of reading it, it does't say much except they're a good bargain.

Some people asked for a conparrison to the same speakers I asked about (plus a comparison with the Fresco i, which I would like to know how they compared with too)

anyone?

 

[HopelessDFilms]

I'm looking at these speakers as well currently...

While I'm not hugely interested in the motion series, as the motion 8 or motion c is much more expensive than an encore tf at the moment, and in my mind, if i spend more $ i'd rather have a electrostatic panel... the stage or any of the others would be wonderful as a center... again, just in my mind...

for the time being i'm trying to get more invested into the logan world, upgrade my entire ht sound, as well as put together a hd proj setup... so every $ counts...

from my research I've not found 1 bad thing to be said about the encore tf speaker.... and like you said, for 200$ compared to either 400$ or 500$ for the higher end motion line or other brands... its hard to not be interested in this speaker...

I'm looking forward to responses about these speakers....

 

[man0fsteel]

Finally listened to some Motions last night

Like the OP and some of the follow up responders, I have been looking at possibly getting the frescos, encores, vignettes or the new motions for an on wall application. Ah, the dilemma, aesthetics vs sound quality.

Last nite, I was at Magnolia AV (inside a Best Buy) and I had a fairly knowledgeable sales guy all to myself. He says he has an older set of ML Panels, and loves the product.

Just for kicks, I first listened to a Stevie Wonder BluRay with some larger ML ESL (unsure of model but larger than the Sources) and a Motif center. Wow...that's the sound I fell in love with when I first heard a pair of ML ESLs years ago. But I did notice that the vertical dispersion sweet spot was very narrow at about 8 ft away...maybe 2 feet wide?

Then on to the Motions in another room. They had the 12s, 10s and a pair of Sources set up as LR and then the Motion 6 and 8 as centers and I could switch from speaker to speaker Unfortunately, the Motion 2s and 4s could not be hooked up as rears, but I did hear them as a LR. They were all being powered by a Denon Receiver. Chris Botti BluRay was playing.

Source LR and Motion 8 center: Very nice. Still getting that transparent, beautiful ML ESL sound. Switched to the Motion 6 center and really didn't hear much difference.

Motion 12 LR and Motion 8 Center: Also very nice. I think for a Non ESL, this set up provided a very pure sound. Not quite as 'refined' a sound as the sources, but the dispersion horizontally and vertically was far better than with the ESLs I heard that night. Switching the 12s to the 10s for LR produced a very similar sound, with a small amount of mid bass missing from the equation. For the $500 price difference...tough call, esp since the Sources were on sale big time ($300 off each)

Motion 4 LR, a Definitive Technology Center and a DT Sub: For as small a set up as this was, I was wowed. Granted, definitely missing the mid bass range of the 12s and 10s, but I think for the sheer size and price, I just might be sold. Now does anyone know about the Motion C center channel?