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[Bernard]

I love using the beginning of Mahler 2 for auditioning. That explosion, not many systems can do

Explosions are a good test, but when auditioning I tend to go more for long-term listenability. If I get tired soon the system is out.

 

[Gordon Gray]

I disagree. It does not take a while to appreciate classical music. Either you like it instantly, or you don't. Me, anyway. I could never grow to like Mahler, or Shostakovich, or Messaien.

Bernard,

Don't have any Messaien. Love Mahler and Shostakovich. In fact, I own all the Mahler symphonies and probably half the Shostakovich symphonies. I cycle through them every several months and start all over again.

For me, I've been listening to contemporary classical lately, which, by comparison, makes M and S sound very lyrical and approachable.

I really like it. Most people think it's simply noise.

And the start of Mahler's second is spectacular.

Gordon

 

[Bernard]

Bernard,

Don't have any Messaien. Love Mahler and Shostakovich. In fact, I own all the Mahler symphonies and probably half the Shostakovich symphonies. I cycle through them every several months and start all over again.

For me, I've been listening to contemporary classical lately, which, by comparison, makes M and S sound very lyrical and approachable.

I really like it. Most people think it's simply noise.

And the start of Mahler's second is spectacular.

Gordon

Gordon,

I was just listening to the beginning of Mahler's 2nd on YouTube, by Berstein, a Mahler specialist, and just couldn't get into it. I prefer the Romantics like Beethoven and Schubert. They are more structured and directed - you know where the music is going. I find Mahler somewhat abstract. For spectacular stuff I listen to Tchaikovsky. I went to a live performance here of his 4th Symphony, with Rostropovich conducting the Washinton National Symphony Orchestra. It was truly amazing.

The only contemporary stuff I like is Orff. I know you like a Carmina Burana, but have you heard the other two in the trilogy (Catulli Carmina and Trionfo di Afrodite)? They are not as spectacular as Carmina Burana, but still enjoyable.

 

[bonzo]

This is a very good recording, from Channel Classics. The DSD download from their website is very good as well.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000GPIBOG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

I watched Mahler 2 conducted by Simon Rattle and Berlin Philharmonic last month

 

[Gordon Gray]

Bernard,

Huge Orff fan also. Have seen / heard Carmina Burana three times live.

I totally understand your perspective on Mahler, etc. Not very melodic / romantic at times with the exception of his fourth. That one is very approachable and has a gorgeous female vocal part in the fourth movement.

Gordon

 

[Gordon Gray]

Bonzo,

I have the Leonard Bernstein / NY Phil. Mahler Symphony CD recordings done in the 80's and recently remastered.

Not SA but spectacular (musically and sonically) nonetheless. Highly recommended for those who are interested.

Gordon

 

[Dougster]

Bonzo,

I have the Leonard Bernstein / NY Phil. Mahler Symphony CD recordings done in the 80's and recently remastered.

Not SA but spectacular (musically and sonically) nonetheless. Highly recommended for those who are interested.

Gordon

I enjoy Mahler's second a lot! I have Solti's version of second on Haitink's version of 5th and 7th, all on vinyl. I love his grand themes and subjects, and his orchestration and arrangements are wonderful and beautifully displayed on a good system. Maybe he might grow on you Bernard when his works become more familiar?

Will check out your recommended versions Gordon, one of the joys of streaming!! For more recent creations James MacMillan's work is interesting and challenging, or there's Arvo Part and Taverner for more liturgy- and minimalist- influenced works.

Carmina Burana is great fun (lucky you seeing and hearing it live!!) and my favourite version is on Deutsche Gramophon (authorised by Orff in fact, though I had forgotten about that till getting it out to check details) featuring Gundula Janowitz and Fischer Dieskau. Eugen Jochum conducts.

 

[Bernard]

Bernard,

Huge Orff fan also. Have seen / heard Carmina Burana three times live.

I totally understand your perspective on Mahler, etc. Not very melodic / romantic at times with the exception of his fourth. That one is very approachable and has a gorgeous female vocal part in the fourth movement.

Gordon

I've seen /heard Carmina Burana three times live as well.

In one it was really funny but when the baritone sang the part of the drunken abbott he had his shirt out of his pants. And he was on crutches.

In another, towards the end I was thinking that the children's choir sounded reall great and was wishing they would sing louder. Just then I saw the conductor give them the "gimme" sign while motioning the adults to sing softer. Unfortunately the kids would not sing louder.

I will listen to Mahler's fourth, but no guarantees.

 

[amey01]

Happy sleeping Kedar. Australia won the toss and elected to bat. 0 wicket for 2 runs just now.

UPDATE: Warner dismissed! Australia 1 wicket for 15 runs.

 

[bonzo]

Happy sleeping Kedar. Australia won the toss and elected to bat. 0 wicket for 2 runs just now.

UPDATE: Warner dismissed! Australia 1 wicket for 15 runs.

I woke up at 3.30. If I put in as much effort at work as I put into cricket and hifi, I would have been a billionaire at 30 and bought a big room with Western Electric horns and non-Ikea chair

 

[amey01]

I woke up at 3.30. If I put in as much effort at work as I put into cricket and hifi, I would have been a billionaire at 30 and bought a big room with Western Electric horns and non-Ikea chair

HAHA - me too. 1 wicket for 56 runs, 10th over.

 

[bonzo]

HAHA - me too.

But you would still have a cheap USB cable, so your system wouldn't sound any better

 

[amey01]

But you would still have a cheap USB cable, so your system wouldn't sound any better

Laughing uncontrollably. 1 wicket for 70 runs.


UPDATE: 7/328 on the 50th over.

The Indian run chase will start soon

UPDATE: India 3 wickets for 95 runs.

 

[Bernard]

I just got an email from Acoustic Sounds that in May they will have on 180gm vinyl Leonard Bernstein's Mahler 1 and 4 from DG.

This thread has taken on a life of its own. No apologies - Kedar started it.

 

[amey01]

And to finish off Bernard, India all out for 233 on the 46th over. Australia win!!!

 

[Bernard]

I listened to Lenny's Mahler 4, specifically the start and the last movement. Just not my thing. I just hear a bunch of orchestral lines, with nothing cohesive, and just when you think a theme is being developed you suddenly get a crescendo. Way too abstract for me.

The female vocal mentioned by Dougster did nothing for me. I much prefer something like "In Trutina" from Carmina Burana; you actually follow it build into something.

 

[Gordon Gray]

Bernard,

That's fine. The good news is that there are so many genres with so many choices.

Gordon

 

[Bernard]

Bernard,

That's fine. The good news is that there are so many genres with so many choices.

Gordon

Yup! It's great.

 

[bonzo]

I just got an email from Acoustic Sounds that in May they will have on 180gm vinyl Leonard Bernstein's Mahler 1 and 4 from DG.

This thread has taken on a life of its own. No apologies - Kedar started it.

Mooks do the unexpected

 

[User211]

People should get paid in Mooks. Houses should be built out of them. Keep well away from the hi-fi, though:ROFL: