User211
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Great sound WITHIN it's limits, though. It surely won't play that loud without stress, or is that not the case, Miljac?
Martin Logan CLX Hi-Fi+ 2008 Awards Clear Winner
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tonepub
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Some of you guys need to come out here when I get the CJ 275 watt tube monos after CES. That should be pretty exciting...
I'm going to be trying these speakers with every amp we can get our hands on.
I'm going to be trying these speakers with every amp we can get our hands on.
User211
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I'd come Jeff, but it's a long walk!
David Matz
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Is this a new product? Interestingly, it seems to me, CJ was never in the big tube market like vtl, arc, manley, etc... I guess you need customers with big, dedicated rooms.
I wonder how the new $140K 30 watt Lamm would do with the speakers... Any chance getting these?
Well, we did not try to reach 120 dB ......
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The 1st Watt is the most important, so we are told. Such a cute product I thought I'd draw some attention to it. This and a pair of Summits? Hmmm
The 1st Watt is the most important, so we are told. Such a cute product I thought I'd draw some attention to it. This and a pair of Summits? Hmmm
tonepub
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CJ has always been huge in the tube market. 30 watts isn't enough for the CLX as far as I'm concerned. I like power....
David Matz
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I like power also for stats. The Mark Michelson from Soundstage ran Wilson Alexandrias with the Lamm and said it was glorious...
Wasn't the last CJ tube monoblock only 140 wpc? 275 wpc seems like a big jump in power compared to previous products and whole new market segment.
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The CJ Premier 8 monos pumped out 275 Watts each. The new CJ LP 275 puts out 275 WPC. The premier 8 are monsters mind you nothing like the power you get from a VTL 600 but power is not everything. I have my eye on a set of CJ Premer 12s (140 WPC) monos to bi-amp my Monoliths.
I can state for a fact that my CJ Premier 140 has PLENTY of power to adequately drive my Ascents, although it sounds even better when you biamp the woofers with solid state and let the CJ just handle the panels. Of course, having said that, I currently have the Pass Labs X-350.5 on the Ascents and absolutely love the sound.
David Matz
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Cherian,
Please let me know when you get them. I will be knocking on your door.
Best regards,
David
tonepub
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Having spent a fair amount of time with the X-2, I personally liked Dave Wilson's big 600 watt VTL monos more. Depends on your room and system, but I've had a lot of small amps and my fair share of high powered ones, and personally, I'll take a well designed big amp any day of the week.
Just read the review, and it is the best one of the CLX I've come across. The writer managers to describe the speakers well without going through the usual reviewer's checklist.
Plus, he explains why the 56 Hz cutoff actually makes the bass better, in a way that I would not have wanted ML to make the cutoff any lower! That's good, non-superficial analysis.
One minor journalistic complaint.
The cover leads you to believe that the CLX is the clear winner of the 2008 Awards. "Awards 2008" is the main headline. "Clear Winner" is just the title of the article (an obvious pun of the speaker's looks), separate from the main title. In fact, they named the CLX just one of several winners.
Plus, he explains why the 56 Hz cutoff actually makes the bass better, in a way that I would not have wanted ML to make the cutoff any lower! That's good, non-superficial analysis.
One minor journalistic complaint.
The cover leads you to believe that the CLX is the clear winner of the 2008 Awards. "Awards 2008" is the main headline. "Clear Winner" is just the title of the article (an obvious pun of the speaker's looks), separate from the main title. In fact, they named the CLX just one of several winners.
User211
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OK, I'll grant that!
And you folks did invent cricket too
Seriously now...
How about the amps that they found matched best.. the Bernings. I've not been able to find out how much power they put out. Any clues?
tonepub
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User211
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OK, I'll grant that!
And you folks did invent cricket too
Seriously now...
How about the amps that they found matched best.. the Bernings. I've not been able to find out how much power they put out. Any clues?
Cricket - great game to play (I used to really enjoy it - Golf is my bag now), terrible to watch, I think.
Anyway, from the links I supplied concerning recommended amps:
"Typical output power at onset of clipping: 8 ohms 220 W; 4 ohms 270W." These are OTLs, for those who don't know. That means no transformers. But they do cost £22,500 - which is the same as the CLX Anniv. here. They'll be peanuts to you guys, of course
!In the Berning review in the mag, it fails to state the output. Just a slight omission
!They are preferred over the C-J LP-M 275s. Sorry, C-J fans. Though I must qualify that it is not clear
whether they were tried with the CLX. And it is only what one geezer thinks anyway... you might not agree!
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tonepub
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Im sure those Berning amps are great with the right speaker.
OTL's are very speaker sensitive, but when you hit the right combination
it's magic, definitely.
However, you need to have all carefully matched output tubes, etc, etc.
Not for the faint of heart, more like a vintage Ferrari that you only take out on Sunday!
OTL's are very speaker sensitive, but when you hit the right combination
it's magic, definitely.
However, you need to have all carefully matched output tubes, etc, etc.
Not for the faint of heart, more like a vintage Ferrari that you only take out on Sunday!
Stefan
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High Fidelity (a swedish/danish magazine) has a very nice five page review in their no 7 issue.
My copy is in Swedish though...
Just a brief translation of the summary:
"In most areas the CLX plays on a level of quality I have never before experienced in my listening room. Yes, as I have ever experienced,
It's capability to play deep, super articulated bass in combination with an extremely open midrange/treble and an almost unlimited dynamic is nothing less than epoch-making...
...Belivieve me: Martin Logan CLX will beome a reference to which many speakers will be compared in the future"
Rather positive I would say
Tomorrow I am going down to my local Martin Logan supplier and have another listen to the CLX :music:
tonepub
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Super articulate, definitely, super deep, not in my room, but perhaps in a smaller room. However, with a Descent i, phenomenal combination!
enjoy!
enjoy!
