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    Summits vs Vantages and Descent i - LAST CALL

    Are you still using the pair of REL Q150 subs with your Vantages? Since the Vantages (and Summits) have internal powered woofers, and the Vantage panels are crossed over at 400 Hz, I'm wondering why the bass would have a "major" improvement in bass response. Wouldn't the better amp open up the...
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    Summits vs Vantages and Descent i - LAST CALL

    Tweeking the sub Ken, Thanks for the insight. I can relate to the constant tweeking of the sub. What is your room size and where are your Summit's placed? See my previous response. I'm concerned about the Summits being too "big" for a room only 15" wide front to back. There is plenty of...
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    Summits vs Vantages and Descent i - LAST CALL

    Where is the "vocal" point How far from the wall are the panels? How far from the panels is your head? Where do you "hear" the vocals centered? On my Vantages, a vocal is centered fairly low on the panel. It doesn't see to integrate with the TV. Almost seems like they are disconnected...
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    Summits vs Vantages and Descent i - LAST CALL

    I will throw this question out to the group ONE LAST TIME since I am going crazy over here trying to decide!!!!!!!!:eek: :confused: Long story short . . . . I have a pair of new Vantages and a Descent i which is to be replaced this coming Tuesday. Talking with my dealer he said ML MAY swap out...
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    what a difference POWER makes!

    Tim, Thanks for the write up! I have to say that amp LOOKS great sitting there ready to power your speakers at a moments notice! So the only "negative" you have is the lack of mid-range bloom? I have the Vantages and Descent i and am looking at HT down the road. I would still be 95% music...
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    Cambridge Audio Azur 840C CD Player

    OK, I was the guy who started the thread and I'm certainly enjoying what I'm "hearing" about the 840C, but you guys are getting way ahead of me here! I have a couple questions: Are you using the 840C as a DAC with another player/transport, or are you using it as your CDP and using it to...
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    JL Audio Fathom f113 sub - Anyone using it - with Vantages?

    It's good to see that we can say what we want to say on this forum, and move on. I enjoy learning about all the many ways I can spend my hard earned money on stereo equipment! There are as many answers to my questions as there are members on this forum. I personally like to hear as many...
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    Bat Vk6200

    I just posted a similar question on a current thread: "what a difference POWER makes!", but wanted to open it up to the group, as I know there are least a few members who own this amp . . . MiTT. I have the ML vantages and a Descent i right now. (Actually am looking at the JL Fathom f113 too)...
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    what a difference POWER makes!

    "mono" blocks in the same chassis . . . BAT VK6200, VK600 What about SS dual "mono" amps that share the same chassis like the BAT VK-600 and VK600SE? Or better yet, their multi-channel beast, the BAT VK-6200? The VK 600 even has seperate power cords per side! I've been eyeing the VK6200 (since...
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    Cambridge Audio Azur 840C CD Player

    Thanks James! I do recall reading through your system a couple of weeks back. AWESOME system! I'll have to read through the entire thing when I have a little more energy! I'm going to do a little listening right now and turn the computer off! I've been researching audio stuff for the past...
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    Cambridge Audio Azur 840C CD Player

    Esoteric and CA follow up I was looking at the Esoteric SA-60 which lists for $4,500 and their DV-60 which lists for $5,600! That seems like a lot of money, to me anyway, for a cd/dvd player. I know some of the members here have them and I'm sure they sound great, just a bit too much for me...
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    Cambridge Audio Azur 840C CD Player

    There are only two posts I was able to locate regarding the Cambridge Audio Azur 840C CD Player, one being . . . I recently purchased a pair of Vantages with a Descent i sub. I'm looking upgarde my system a bit further and my dealer suggested my best bet would be my CD player, which is an...
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    what a difference POWER makes!

    And with powered woofers . . . . Wouldn't we get the same sound improvement by adding "improved high CURRENT capability" to even ML's with powered woofers, as with the Vantages and Summits? When reading amp specs, it's easy to fing the WATT ratings, but what am I looking for to measure...
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    JL Audio Fathom f113 sub - Anyone using it - with Vantages?

    To sub the sub . . . or not to sub at all! Wow, thanks for the commentary. It was helpfull. I suppose I could just return the Descent i, but even with what I paid for the Vantages, plus the extra money for the sub, I'd still need to come up with probably $4,000 plus and I don't think I could...
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    JL Audio Fathom f113 sub - Anyone using it - with Vantages?

    Who knows why . . . ? Thanks for the lead on the other f113 thread. I emailed the "owner" to ask where he's at with the sub, since there hasn't been a post for awhile. I already have a Descent i in my brand new sytem, BUT my dealer has given me the option to check out the JL Fathom f113 as an...
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    Summits are here!

    Any update on your Fathom F113? How's the Fathom 113 doing in your system? I have a new set of Vantages with the Descent i sub, BUT . . . . . my dealer is still giving me time to change to a Fathom f113 IF I want to! I can relate to the seeming agony you have gone through looking for...
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    JL Audio Fathom f113 sub - Anyone using it - with Vantages?

    Is anyone using the JL Audio Fathom f113 sub with your ML's, especially with Vantages? What concerns are there with using a non-ML sub with ML speakers? I've read some phenominal stuff about this sub. Thanks! JM
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    Subwoofer placement - anyone in the middle?

    sub phase Positioned even with the mains, (including even-but-to-one-side), 90 degrees. If the sub is even with the mains, set to 90 degrees, and things are too boomy, or bloated, try setting the sub to 270 degrees. This puts the sub out of phase with both the front and the back of the panels...
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    Subwoofer placement - anyone in the middle?

    Descent i Do you feel that the Descent i is a good match for the Vantages? I know you are sold on the Depth i. The Summits seem to have a great base built in, so why did ML come out with the Descent i, if the Depth works so well? Future CLX? Or should integrate well with Summits and Vantages...
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