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Summit Room Treatment I have been reading this thread with interest. I have a room which is 21x15x8 with Summits along the long wall. I have experimented with speaker placement (now out about 56" from the front wall) with minimal toe-in. I have also nearly eliminated the rake-angle so they...

To Sub or not to Sub? I have enjoyed this thread immensely. There are many variables in the effect that subwoofers may have on any system. I have a system that serves as a 2.1 for music and 5.1 for theater. Main speakers are Summits with Stage Center and Script-i rear speakers. My room is 22...

I have a 5.1/2.1 listening system that is entirely Martin Logan. Summits and Theater up front. Script i's in back. 2 Descent i subs in front and 2 Descent subs in back. Most of my critical listening is with 2.1 but I watch movies and sports with HT system for immersive sound effect. I have...

I just saw release data on the New M-L CLX's. Although pictures don't always do justice to products, I noticed that the bass frequency response is significantly higher (56Hz) than either Summit or Vista which use hybrid design. It would appear that at least one subwoofer (ie Descent i) would be...

This depends on the kind of amplifier that you have in terms of size, weight and the need for ventilation. I had Sound Anchors craft a very neat dark metal amplifier stand for my Pass X350.5 which perfectly matched its foot print. Because large amplifiers are so difficult to move, I had wheels...

Descent problem Thanks for all of the suggestions. I have found that it occurs with the sub on and no signal going to it but if the power has been on for about 1 hour. I subsequently called Martin Logan and tech support suggested that it was a probably defective woofer that was creating a...

I have a Descent subwoofer that begins to "flutter" after a certain on-period, usually an hour or so. I have done the usual things, disconnect, reboot, change cables, change channels. The "flutter" increases with increasing gain and disappears when I put the level below "2" which makes the sub...

Power line treatment Music again, this is an area which will keep you up for hours if you get seriously into it. For starters, if you can get a dedicated line or two for your equipment, that will already improve whatever you have and reduce interference with other appliances in your home...

Summit Placement Fordste, I agree with most of what you have been told. M-L recommends in their manual a formula for determining distance from front wall based on ceiling height. This works out to about 56 inches to the center of the panel for a room that is 8 feet high. The rest of the...

Audiophile Publication Lists and M-L Speakers As a reviewer for a limited circulation and now defunct high end audio magazine, I can state with confidence that the business of ranking components is complicated and not without controversy. There is a "beauty contest" element in "best of " lists...

Cables for M-L Speakers I would agree with the advice that you have received regarding the need to audition various speaker cables before you buy. The Cable Company has a library of cables that you could compare. Length is also a factor. Depending on the transfer properties of a cable, some...

Summits and rear wall distance The Summit manual gives you a formula based on room dimensions for "best" placement from rear wall. I used that as a starting point and it worked out to about 56". I have played around with having the speakers farther and closer and found that the original...

Amps with Summits I have been using a Pass Labs X-350.5 for the past two years. There are no headroom issues, no noise issues (tubes occasionally hiss), no horrific heat issues. It's just a big piece of equipment and cannot be lifted without weight training. Pass equipment is among the most...

You might consider a "4-sub" approach using either depths or descents depending on the size of your room and your budget. I have two Descent i's and two Descents in my system placed out of each room corner. The sound fill in the system is just amazing with this set up. My primary speakers are...

I have my Summits standing on SoundGuard suspension bases. These are metal anti-resonant bases that almost exactly fit the footprint of these speakers. They keep the woofers off the carpet in my room and are not likely to muffle the sound. I don't know if they are still available. The Cable...

Amplifiers for Summits I have been using a Pass X350.5 for my Summits since I bought them. There is no issue with power limitations. I agree with the majority that is some is good, some more is better when it comes to amplifier headroom. Given the resolving capacity of ESLs, it is critical to...

A Long-time PASS enthusiast I am glad to hear about the positive experiences with PASS amps and M-L ESLs. I have had Pass electronics in my system for 10 years which now include the X350.5 (IMHO the best amp for the money in their line), the XO.2 preamp, two XONO phono preamps, and an X-3 for...

Pre/Pro: 2-channel vs home theater I have a home theater set up with Summits/Stage/Script i's/Descents. Like Rich I have a Pass X350.5 which is a fabulous 2 channel amp. My two-channel preamp is an Pass X0.2 (you can pick these up used for less than $5K on Audiogon). The X0.2 has a unity gain...

I have gotten hooked on subscription satellite radio broadcasting with units in both cars and now a portable hand-held IPOD-like receiver that I can listen to while running or relaxing anywhere. I noticed that there is a smattering of apparent "higher end" Sirius receivers that are being sold by...

Subs for Vantages I would if possible consider an M-L subwoofer. They are tuned to integrate well with the primary M-L speaker which is very important for coherence. In addition, they can be adjusted for room position and phase (distance from primary speaker) as well as cross-over and volume...