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I think this whole discussion could have been squashed if ML had released their upgrade program along with this 3 week notice (or 0 week for the Logos, which co-incidentally I have). Hey Justin, has ML figured out their upgrade program? For some ideas... Emotiva has a pretty nice deal 40% off...

Funny you said that :rolleyes:.

If the receivers you listed have all the features you want then it comes down to price. Google like crazy for that. Another budget strategy I like is grabbing open box stuff at best buy. Just have a smartphone with web access and google reviews. You can also often haggle another 10% off...

I see what you're saying, but I guess I view the ML having a consumable part...the panel. Aka...no matter what you do, the panel is destined to die completely. This is not the case for the woofer and power supply. It's like have a car that needs oil filters and nobody makes them...

I think that is a bit different IMO. If the company folds, then that is a tragic loss and clearly one doesn't buy a product with that happening in mind. That's like buying stock in a company that goes bankrupt. The issue today is ML has changed their own playing field. They now say that...

Bummer...any idea what the "new special promotion" be? I would assume some credit on a new model. Any ideas as to what ideas are being thrown around at ML HQ?

So if I ever sell my speakers to someone in Europe, I guess I'll have to take off the jumper clips :D. I can understand switch positioning being sensitive, because often they are connected through high voltage (aka regular AC). Speaker jumpers though....if they are uninsulated, then I guess...

Was browsing through my Vantage manual....noticed this paragraph: "Jumper Clips In some countries federal law prohibits MartinLogan from supplying jumper clips. If none are found installed under your speaker binding posts, please refer to the 'Bi-Wire Connection' for connection instructions."...

I have had Onkyo and Yamaha and found them pretty comparable. Denon i haver never owned so can't comment. I would stay away from Sony. My Harmon Kardon Avr7300 was a beast...really liked it. Do you have a budget in mind for the receiver?

Most of the guys here have ML electrostats which have somewhat unique amplification requirements compared to non-electrostats. The MLT-2 has a standard tweeter and woofer combo. Assuming it's 8ohm standard, then you could go with pretty much any decent receiver. I'd suggest you go down to...

I'm assuming by itself you don't notice because the difference is subtle. Connecting them both giving you lower volume can't be a panel problem...that points to your source (L/R) or your amp. Have you tried physically moving them? Position may be a factor. Especially for the below 80Hz...

My setup is on the main floor with an unfinished basement below. Co-incidentally I'm in the process of insulating the basement ceiling. I didn't even think about what kind of affect that will have. Also going to buy some room treatments.

The subdude HD is $60 (shipped). Regular Subdude is $50. Only diff is the HD looks nicer. I was thinking pucks, but the subdude is cheaper, and raises the speaker 2.5", and I'm hoping it's more kid proof (aka kids can't mistakenly slide the speaker off the platform). I'm actually hoping...

Hi all, I put a Subdude HD under my Grotto, and wow what a difference! Great job of decoupling the sub from a hardwood floor. Has anybody tried using them under their ML speakers? I'm thinking of buying a set for my Vantages. So..wood floor -> SubdudeHD -> spike -> Vantage. I used to...

Just make sure you fill out all the appropriate paperwork for the 5 year warranty. Often manufacturers default to the manufacturing date in the case of ambiguity and you don't want that to happen :o. Personally, I also bought a set of dealer "demo" vantages as well. I'm very happy with my...

That sounds pretty good...which panels were they and what was ML charging you for replacement panels? Also, how much did shipping and packing both ways run you? Just want a fair comparison to a new replacement.

You can always go 7.1 with the extra requests. Agree with the consensus...center is all about placement.

This is a question I have been meaning to ask as well. The issue is, most people use the Current source to drive the ESL panels, and the Voltage source to drive the woofers. How can we achieve the same affect? I mean, for power amplification, the current/voltage sources have different...

I just use a pair of Airport Expresses (for my 2 systems) and use my iPhone and/or iPad to control them. You can choose songs, playlists, can adjust volume, and choose which speakers you want it to play on. It's a very clean setup. I have some of my music as compressed MP3, but all the new...

Hey Hocky, I used that stand on my old PSB 100ci which was a small center. It was well priced and looked good IMO. I don't know if it would look funny or not, but you can always use 2 smaller stands side by side.