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I found that the 13As sounded better tilted forward compared with their standard 5 deg backwards tilt and reduced this back tilt to 2-3 deg. I'd certainly not want to go forward of vertical, so I'm surprised that the 15As that start life vertical need to be tilted. The test I would suggest is...

I have 13As which are very similar regarding Gaia feet. I bought Gaia II which is good for the weight of both 11A and 13A and I believe the 15A too. Because this range of MLs have the removable electronics tray in the base, you won't be able to securely fit Gaias using the standard fittings...

Go on, spoil yourself - buy my used 13As in gloss piano black ! That's if you're in UK. Peter

I suspect that changing from one model within a range of similar models (eg Summit X to 11A, Quad 63 to 2912, or Avantgarde Uno to Duo) should be a move to be pretty confident with. The TYPE of speaker and its characteristics will be similar - just better - and the house sound of the brand...

Yes, but not a suggestion in any of the numerous replies to my questions in those threads that MLs wouldn't sound good with no wall behind them. Commercial reviews of equipment are often dismissed as being biased or influenced by advertisers and manufacturers, so we are encouraged to get...

I've looked back at my earlier threads and found these 2 old threads. The first was posted when I was thinking in terms of Summit X rather than 13A, but they are much the same animal in design terms. You were the first to comment and I don't see any warning about distance from the rear (behind...

Thanks. Strange thing was that my Quad 2905s sounded very good here. A local guy who has Quad 2905s himself thought so too and this prompted me towards the much more attractive MLs. Without checking back, I can't say for certain whether it was this forum or the AVS ML Group, or even ML...

Yes, but It appeared from one or two replies that people had misinterpreted my conclusion that MLs need a wall reasonably close behind them to sound their best. The odd thing (and to my cost) is that it was here on this forum that people reckoned my room would be great for MLs before I...

By not sounding good where there's no wall reasonably close behind them, I mean that in my room where there's 12 ft behind one and 15 ft behind the other speaker and the wall is at an angle so doesn't reflect any of the back-firing sound from this range of ML (50 % of the total emitted sound)...

I have Expression 13As (now for sale) and bought a Magtech to power them, although I already had a GamuT D200 Mk III. The Sanders was good, but I'm not sure better than the GamuT. However the Sanders was not good with other more efficient speakers as it was decidedly noisy. You probably won't...

I guess the speakers will be placed along the 15 ft wall - the wall in the photo. This would be fine. I was worried that you may be thinking of placing them in open space ie well away from any wall behind them. My experience is that MLs don't like an open space behind them. Unfortunately...

Marty - where are you based? With a room that size, I wonder if the 11A will be slightly out of its depth. Borderline perhaps depending on room acoustics and type and volume of music I suppose. In any event, please add a sketch of your room and where you plan to place the speakers as I have...

Len. In fact I use the NAD M32 digital amplifier fed by the M50.2. The M32 is an integrated with built-in DAC. How good this DAC is compared with ones costing big bucks, I can't say, but as an all-in-one costing around £4000, it's a bargain in my view and sounds very good. I'm planning on...

Len - Have you considered something like the NAD M50.2? It's a ripper, music store, server and streamer, plus (almost uniquely) it will simply PLAY your CDs - or your visitors' dreadful ones - those you really don't want rip them first. It has a good touchscreen LED panel and the Bluesound app...

Curiouser and curiouser! If I go to the ML site, there's nothing about discounts on the Home page but in Promotions I see this: "Currently there are no promotions running" The link still won't open, perhaps because I'm using a UK address. Using Firefox, I get: Oops! An Error Occurred...

Can anyone open this link? Tried with 2 browsers but nothing. Hopefully (at least for me trying to sell a pair of Masterpiece speakers) it's a hoax!

How they sound in comparison? Well the 13As SHOULD sound much better than the 17 year old Avantgarde Unos and they WOULD in most rooms. However, after careful setting up and running the PBK room correction, we considered that the AGs sounded a little better than the MLs. Having said that...

Here are some photos of the Expression 13As I have for sale. They have been moved to dark storage and covered in their dust covers since my initial trials. They are 100% perfect and as new.

You know about all these speakers. They are part of Martin Logan's Masterpiece range. 13" wide panel and twin 10" bass drivers. Absolutely 100% perfect, virtually unused and less than a year since bought from authorised UK dealer. Over 1/3 off new price. Complete with PBK kit (room...

Angie - Could I make a suggestion that might make the forum a little easier and more intuitive, particularly to new visitors. Example - Go from Forums to Main Discussion Forum (using a PC, not sure about phones). The first dozen or so threads are ancient historical locked threads, rather than...