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I agree with Tom, the Vistas do take a little while to tame (mine sure did) but not very long, If you should find no change to your sound after 100 hours or so, I suggest experimenting with different audio cables before switching components. Also I highly recommend a REL sub, those things are...

I agree.......my experience with Vantages as shown below: Started with: Pioneer Elite (VSX-74TXi) = Good Changed to: Quad 909 (power amp) plus Pioneer as a pre = Better Now enjoying: Musical Fidelity a 3.2CR power and A 3.2CR pre = Best Hope this helps!!

Are you still using the pair of REL Q150 subs with your Vantages? No.........not for 2 channel listening Since the Vantages (and Summits) have internal powered woofers, and the Vantage panels are crossed over at 400 Hz, I'm wondering why the bass would have a "major" improvement in bass...

As posted in a different thread, I am quicky becoming a bigger and bigger fan of Musical Fidelity's products, the build quality and sonics are very appealing to ME. I personally was OK with the Primare sound, although your opinion differs. Happy Shopping !!

Wow...............prior to reading this post I was prepared to give this exact input (scarry indeed).......It has everything to do with marketing and not much to do with real world applications......... those of us in the know....know better

Well said Gordon................ As a current Vantage owner, (I upgraded from the Vista's) I am astounded with the natural bass response from my Vantages. I had paired my Vista's with a Quad 909 power amp, supported by a pair of REL (Q150) subs, and was quite happy with the results. To drive...

That is just darn funny........:D

tonepub Just another thought, but I would also agree with the two smaller subs rather than one big one. I've had excellent luck with that and other panels. The best bet is to experiment if possible! I've been using 2 of REL's entry level subs (Q150's) with my Vista's for quite a while, and...

this is all beginning to remind me of a movie...... 1) Keyser Soze (real person ??) 2)Intrigue (Summits for sale) 3) The Usual Suspects (various surround speaker recommendations) hmmmmmmm...... my coffee cup just hit the floor :eek: I have used the Mirage Nanosats for close to a year to...

I agree with the dual/stereo sub route..........I've been running dual Grotto's with my Vista's for the past eleven months, I'm getting ready to trade up to the ML Vantages next month, I suspect that the Grotto's will continue to be a great match.

In the long run it could actually benefit ML. No way ML lets their ESL line (maybe all of their products) go to big box stores again. This is what I have witnessed in recent years with the Big Box retailers in the Washington,DC metro area. CC used to sell Karmon Kardon (recievers) BB now...

what a G R E A T idea Craig ............I hope the ML folks are reading this !!

We all did.............it required our serial #'s, date of purchase and we paid the return postage :D "All of us searching for some perfect sound we know we'll someday find" (Thompson Twins... Hold Me Now.....slightly modified)

Amey 01.........I went through a similar scenario as you, my first pair of Vista's arrived and one speaker was DOA :mad: the dealer replaced the original pair and all was well. FYI....... I sold my ASCENT i's to purchase the Vista's (more room friendly IMO) and I initially thought that I had...

75% 2 channel 15% Home Theater* 10% Multi Channel DVD's (Eric Clapton...One More Car One More Rider....do yourself a favor and listen) *Because of the unique ML sound I now listen to most DVD's in 2 channel as well.

Got a great deal on my GROTTO at 50% off MSRP (new in box) and it sounds sweet.