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    EM-ESL upgrade to ESL-Classic 9’s

    Yup. I used something similar -- Rockwool Safe'N'Sound bought at Lowe's. $60 for a package of twelve 16"x48"x3" batts. Built frames out of 1x4's, covered them with burlap fabric. Made 4 panels for less than $100 with material leftover to make more down the road. I did buy some corner bass...
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    Review after a year in...

    Nice system. I always enjoy reading posts like this where people are still happy with their choice after a year or more. The ML panels are definitely something special for 2-channel music. Nice to see WI represented. Former Wisconsinite here who "defected" to IL for a job opportunity some...
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    EM-ESL upgrade to ESL-Classic 9’s

    Ah yes, I understand the addiction well… I don’t have experience with the ESL-9, but I did move from the ESL X to the Impression 11A and it was a huge increase in sound quality. All the speakers in the Masterpiece line step up the quality quite a bit over the ElectroMotion line. The only...
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    Help Talk Me Out of Upgrading 11A's to 13A's

    Great info, thanks. I'm curious about the subwoofers angle. I've got two subs in there now - a Velodyne DD15 and a ML Dynamo 1100x. I've got them dialed in with a miniDSP so that they're flat down to about 18Hz, but I'm only using them for movies through my HT processor's LFE channel. I...
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    Help Talk Me Out of Upgrading 11A's to 13A's

    All good suggestions, thanks. So many options... My dealer has also suggested that I consider adding a 212 to my 11A's. May have to look into that. I'm good to go with upstream gear. The Anthem/Rotel combo is just for the HT part of my dual duty system. For 2-channel music, I am using...
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    Help Talk Me Out of Upgrading 11A's to 13A's

    :LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL: Well...the "talking me out of it" part was a little bit tongue-in-cheek... The room I'm using is basically the size of a one-car garage. In some of the models in my neighborhood, it's the 3rd-car garage. In others, like mine, it's a den. It was the most uniformly shaped...
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    Help Talk Me Out of Upgrading 11A's to 13A's

    I appreciate your response. That's certainly an option. I'm just not sure if I have enough space for the 15's. My room is only 11-1/2' wide and a weird L-shaped layout. 20' deep front to back on the right side, and 14-1/2' deep on the left side from the front to a doorway. The rest of the...
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    Help Talk Me Out of Upgrading 11A's to 13A's

    So lately I have not been able to get the thought of upgrading my 11A's to 13A's out of my mind. 13A's would likely be my final move as I don't have the space (or funds...) for 15A's. My problem is that no one near me has both the 11A's and 13A's to compare side-by-side. When I moved up from...
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    Are 13a's dipole?

    As the others have said, the woofers are not dipoles. They use what ML calls "ForceForward" technology. Here's some addition info from a press release from when the new Masterpiece lineup was announced: "PoweredForce Forward™ Bass Technology combines two MartinLogan audio innovations...
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    My apartment setup

    They do look very nice. I like your choice of scatter pattern. I went with gatsby arches and kind of wish I had gone with something different. Your quality control experience was very similar to mine. I had to request that they resend new scatter plates because every panel on the 4 corner...
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    Expression 13A rake/placement suggestions

    Congrats on the 13's. Very nice! I have not yet experimented with rake angle with my 11's, but have played around extensively with distance from front wall and toe-in. Small changes can make a big difference. I was at about 4.5' out from the front wall with quite a bit of toe-in. Using the...
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    New to ML

    Greetings, Al! Fellow 11A owner here. I hope you love yours as much as I love mine. Give them a little time to break in. They just keep getting better.
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    Hey Everyone!

    Spot on. I would also add that some McIntosh, like the MA252 and MA352 hybrid tube integrated models use direct coupled SS amps. No autoformers. I'm using an MA352 right now until my C2700/MC462 combo comes in. The MA352 isn't a bad unit, but (as I found out) not the best match for ML panels. It...
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    Another New (Senior Citizen) to this site.

    Hello and welcome to the forum! So from the models you listed out, my pick would be the 11A's if for no other reason than the built-in ARC calibration for the subwoofer section. I think it's a really worthwhile feature to have and it helps smooth out the integration between the panel and...
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    New (old as in Senior Citizen) Member from Chicago, IL area

    You might not have a room that can accommodate 13A’s, but if your ESL X’s fit, 11A’s just might, too. I have a relatively small room and upgraded from ESL X’s to 11A’s and could not be happier. I just love them. Just some food for thought... :)
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    New (old as in Senior Citizen) Member from Chicago, IL area

    Welcome to the forum from a fellow Chicago-area member. Sounds like you have put together a very nice system there. I'm using a Rotel RMB-1585 5-channel to run an ML ESL C center and various ML Motion surrounds in my dual duty 2-channel music, multi-channel HT system. Always been a fan of the...
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    Mic for ARC Genesis

    Thanks for the info! I'm tempted to order a new kit so I can compare the results from the new mic with my original Anthem mic and see how the measurements compare. I would hope they'd be the same or very close, but you never know...
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    Mic for ARC Genesis

    Can I ask a favor? After you get the kit from Crutchfield, can you please post an update to this thread with details on what mic you received? I have the original black one that came with my Anthem AVM 60, but last time I was at my local shop, they showed me a new mic that Anthem/ML are using...
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    Mic for ARC Genesis

    To my knowledge, you have to use the Anthem/ML mic. I would love to use my miniDSP UMIK-1, but last time I dug into it, general consensus was that it was not compatible because there's no way to load the UMIK calibration file into Genesis. The microphone in the Anthem ARC kit is the same as...
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    50 XTI center with Montis for front surround?

    I used the older 50XT with a pair of ESL X's and thought it sounded fine. I did eventually swap it out for the ESL C, but never really felt it was a gigantic upgrade over the 50XT. To be honest, sometimes the ESL C sounds a little boxy to me, so I cross it over a little higher than I did the...
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