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  1. rower30

    BF212 + CLX impression.

    One note, if you use SUMMIT with TWO BF212 subs yes, you will get DEEP and MID bass slam at the expense of some detail and coherence. The conical drivers can't get the coherence and micro dynamic detail of the CLX panels. But if the question is "slam" yes, the SUMMIT with two BF212's would...
  2. rower30

    BF212 + CLX impression.

    ..You said if you want impact use Summit. For dynamic orchestral performances, where do you get more slam, Summits, or a CLX with a BF212... That "punch" I'm referring to is in the upper mid bass dynamic region (60-200 Hz or so). The bass panel in the CLX has a dynamic limitation as to how far...
  3. rower30

    BF212 + CLX impression.

    Descent 1 and BF212 - different "depth" of sonic exposure. Well, my friends have a Descent one they use with the THEOS main's. The bass is very good but the dual 212's reach WAY deeper and with MUCH better authority way down low. The reverberations feel like granite walking through the room and...
  4. rower30

    BF212 + CLX impression.

    BF212 Sub Woofers I recently added two BF212 Sub Woofers to my CLX's and the difference was more than I really expected. I was using two well known 10” powered subs before and the changes were well worth the effort to move these 145 pound monsters. The picture of the BF212 next to the single...
  5. rower30

    New CLX Owner

    Try some Allen Taylor (Colour to the MOON), Hans Thessink or James Taylor. Super music for guitar and vocals. For female, the CLX really get Tracy Chapman's voice correct. She can be very heavy sounding on lesser speakers, with poor resolution. For some amazing harmony, try Peter Paul and...
  6. rower30

    Goosebump factor

    Do you generally know the sound you like...and keep it straight in your head (not too easy, actually). To make head way, you need a reference. My method of using "seasons" to mentally place a component works pretty well. Of course, the more you listen the more re arranging you have to do as the...
  7. rower30

    New CLX Owner

    Mine are new from end of December and the bass took MANY, many hours of play to get to an effortless presence...but they did. The manual states 90 dB of play for 100 hours. That's a LOT of play at a high energy level. But, these speakers really get under your skin after break-in with their...
  8. rower30

    Magico vs Logan………..

    Keep listening and some truths will emerge. I've listened to the MAGICO S5 at length that were well set-up, and that open see through the stage sound of the CLX just isn't there. There is a "soft" coloration that is evident to anyone accustom to good ELS's. In the same room, I also auditioned...
  9. rower30

    Do power cords matter?

    ...This pop is simply an artifact of the electronics design of your various components. When you turn off or remove power from circuits, the output voltage can jump, causing the pop. No power cord or line conditioner can change fix this... Yes, many DC side circuits use small capacitors to...
  10. rower30

    Do power cords matter?

    The big technical argument on power cords, is to act as a RF filter for garbage noise (really, really, poor dielectric properties to RF...Absorb RF into heat) so only clean 60 cycle mostly gets through. Then the cord is plugged into a line conditioner where several more dB of noise isolation...
  11. rower30

    Is your hi-fi a weapon?

    Not to be, "one of those" I rearranged my room for sound only (it's kind of awkward looking). I moved the theater chairs up to the front of the room 2 feet back feet to the closest spot that had good center imaging (that 1.25 ratio I mentioned). This does give the best resolution, as the room...
  12. rower30

    Is your hi-fi a weapon?

    What so funny, is that I messed around with the seating, and found somewhere around a 1:1 ratio works...and the funny offset image is nearly gone. This was the "nearest" spot I found with my moving chair method. But, you just can't get too close or the solid center image goes away...poof, like...
  13. rower30

    Magico vs Logan………..

    Fix it, don't explain it away. It seems everyone hears the same issues I hear with one of the best cone driver speakers, MAGICO. That "The Montis had a stronger, punchier bass courtesy of the powered woofer vs the Magico's more controlled, tighter bass response" is puzzling because the lack...
  14. rower30

    Is your hi-fi a weapon?

    But he was BIG and I am SMALL.. ...What a great story! I think I need to get "I listen at 1.7!" printed on a t-shirt :-)... But he was BIG and I am SMALL. I want to laugh, but not die. If he caught me with that T-shirt, I am as dead as an old Large Advent tweeter. You made me laugh, good...
  15. rower30

    Magico vs Logan………..

    My experience with the CLX has really changed my impressions of speakers in general. I dropped by the hi-fi store and gave a listen to a nice MAGICO S5 set-up with all the newest SIM-AUDIO MOON equipment (big mono-blocks, pre-amp, CD player, all higher end NORDOST interconnects ETC) and a REL...
  16. rower30

    Is your hi-fi a weapon?

    I had an interesting experience the other day at the local hi-fi shop. Two men were there, with one picking up some new leads. I idely chatted with the other and the discussion came to electrostatic verses dynamic driver speakers. One like them the other didn't. Fair enough. I mentionred I was a...
  17. rower30

    NEW CLX owner...beyond expectations (the speaker, not me!).

    MOON W-8 is pretty good so far, and I'm BROKE after the CLX purchase. I use a Sim Audio MOON W-8, which is a pretty big amp that does double down in power each time the impedance drops from 8 to 4 to 2 ohms. There is, of course, the limit the panel can move and not get so close to either...
  18. rower30

    NEW CLX owner...beyond expectations (the speaker, not me!).

    Figuring the MLO site site out... Yes, I'm trying to figure out this site. I can't seem to find the "My system" footer you guys use so people have an idea what insanity I listen to. It does make a difference. I don't want to post too much duplicate stuff, either.
  19. rower30

    NEW CLX owner...beyond expectations (the speaker, not me!).

    Hello Martin Logan owners, I pretty new to the electrostatic driver family, having owned my CLX arts since late December. Did I EVER think I'd buy "fussy" electrostatic speakers? Positively NOT. Can I ever think I can live without a set now that I've broken-in my CLX Arts? NO! I listen to...
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