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    ESL - endless need of panel replacements

    Climate not similar if not mistaken. Rains frequently there. Does not rain frequently in Karachi. In Karachi all of 2023 unlike some of the preceding years with excessive rainfall and concomitant destruction, light rain fell for short period approx. on 3 to 5 days. Due to the widespread...
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    ESL - endless need of panel replacements

    Limit dust accumulation. Vacuum clean electrostatic panel. Frequency proportional to dust accumulation in room. Limit amount of dust by very infrequently opening window and open door only when enter or exit room. In addition when ELS is not in use single thick fabric cover or 2 less thick...
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    Phono pre-amp decision: tubes vs SS

    https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650026672-sutherland-insight-phonostage/images/4695001/
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    Total production cost $1. Labor 0.3 Material 0.3 Manufacturing overhead 0.4 10% increase in panel. Assume 10% increase in panel cost. Assume 50% of material is panel cost. That is 0.15 After 10% increase in panel size and cost. Material 0.315 0.15 + 0.015 + 0.15 = 0.315 Percentage increase...
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    CLSII potential newer buyer

    Taking into account just their appearance they look great and have custom wood additions. Whether upgrade actually improve sonic I do not know and perhaps not matter if wood additions do not detract from or spoil sonics. Owner, has taken very good care of them. CLS2 not a good match for tube...
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    PART 1. I do not know if there are differences in panels apart from what was mentioned. However, guess the Neolith gets the best quality, durable and ultra high performance film material. Perhaps better than mylar if such a material is available. And precise and comprehensive vacuum vapor...
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    Least of three Evel Knevel is monopolistic competition. Other two formats in increasing order of severity of injury to pure competition and ergo to welfare of consumer are oligopoly and monopoly. No terms do not refer to fat and fatter people. Average US citizen in difficult predicament if...
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    INTRODUCTION: Neither do I have a university electronic engineering background. Nor am I a speaker designer employed by ML. Therefore to answer your question I would have to extrapolate. Good practice is to answer questions with relevant facts rather than extrapolation. Possibility of other...
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    Not all business. Example Walmart departmental store, Local grocery store carrying food essentials. Your statement does apply to luxury items. Or perhaps items in short supply.
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    ML center ELS have folded Motion tweeter to allow tweeter to synergistically interact with electrostatic panel. Goal to enhance or improve sound. Think of center channel loudspeaker like specialized equipment to forcefully reproduce dialogue and whatever else is covered by speaker frequency...
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    Hi everyone and question about speaker placement

    In April 2023 discovered a formula in ML Classic ELS 9 instruction manual for inside room speaker optimal or precise placement. If not precise optimal placement then close to optimal or within one feet radius of ideal or perfect placement in room. Measure the distance of wall in front of LP...
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    TOPIC. After four and half year turbulent travel down trial and error lane. Now near destination, i.e full sonic satisfaction goal, despite flaw in panel. INTRODUCTION. I would like to inform interested members how I have recently realized Martin Logan hybrid ELS 9 full potential with Anthem...
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    For Sale (SOLD) For Sale: CLS iiz w/ Sound Anchor Stands

    Jess please PM your cellular contact number. For local pick up.
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    ELS 9 need repair.

    Some days are better than others. Statement true in my case. I take medicine for five incurable illness. Therefore whenever I am able to I push my case for new ELS 9 panel with local ML authorized dealer. I bought ELS 9 on March 13th 2019. Approximately 4 years later one panel minimum 30 percent...
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    Best speaker cable for CLS?

    Low to very low capacitance cables. I use Nordost Blue Heaven speaker cable. Recommend by expert in this field Roberto.
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    Classic 9 vs. ESL Amp Requirements

    INTRODUCTION: Good choice of loudspeaker within ML range. However if I had to pay USA 7500 for ELS9. I would rather buy Shahinian Arc for USA 8500. Like Conrad Johnson, Arc sounds just right. And is a overlooked gem of a speaker. BODY: If I am not mistaken you have four equipment configurations...
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    Thanks distinguished members Robert D, Tmort, Dennis Chern, beekay, Russr and amey01 for taking the trouble and making the effort to respond.
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    Can anyone please tell me what color are replacement panels under warranty for ELS 9.
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    System no. 442 ( CLS, Motion 15, ELS 9 )

    No smokers. Coal and oil not used to prepare meals. Natural gas used.
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